The magical Thursday night with top stars.
- Happy Together! - Happy Together!
(Happy Together)
- Today, we're all looking flashy. - That's right.
Your outfit stands out the most.
("Wa" by Lee Jung Hyun)
- Excuse me. - Yes?
Are you a black magician?
- When I saw myself in the mirror... - Who are you?
Did you get shot with an arrow?
I was also very surprised. Many people...
said, "Wa." Just like Jung Hyun's song title when they saw me.
- I can see why. - Of course.
Yoon Hee dressed up as Lee Hyo Lee again.
- Yoon Hee... - Look at me
(Yoon Hee is Lee Hyo Lee of Fin.K.L.)
- It looks good on you. - Right?
In fact, she looks a lot like Hyo Lee.
- Indeed. - Thank you.
(Who are you to do this?)
- Seriously, who are you? - Who are you?
- I'm Moon Hee Joon. - Moon Hee Joon?
I think I've tried all of Hee Joon's hairstyles on Happy Together.
- Actually, - You look great.
- this hairstyle looks best on you. - I think so too.
- You look great today. - You look great, indeed.
- You know who I am, right? - Who are you?
(Jae Seok dressed as a member of god.)
("Love and Memory" by god)
He can't seem to improve his singing skills.
Aren't you just wearing big size clothes?
You look like you're wearing oversized clothes.
I'm actually Lee Jeong Soo from "Gag Concert".
- I see. "Guess who I am." - That's right.
- "Guess who I am." - "The Unreasonable".
- Yes. "The Unreasonable". - "I'll be back if it gets stale."
- It's very popular on the internet. - People are crazy about it.
Not only those who experienced the culture of the times,
but also young people these days like it as well.
- That's right. - So we're going to travel back...
- in time to those days... - Let's go.
with the stars we all miss.
Let's bring them out. Please come out!
(Please come out!)
- Oh, my. - Oh, my. Hello.
- Hello, Ms. Baek. - Oh, my.
- Welcome. - Ms. Baek.
- Hello. - Gosh. Look at you!
- I need to grab it. - Hello.
- Hello. - Hi, Byul.
- Hello. - Hi, Jung Hyun.
(The third week of October, the incredible lineup!)
Our guests today are the stars of Online Tapgol Park...
who have been heating up the Internet.
They're human time machines who can bring us back old memories.
It's "Offline Tapgol Song Festival". We'll introduce them one by one.
She created the Latin music craze in the 90s.
Now, she's the queen of ballads.
Her voice is like a national treasure. Baek Z Young!
- Baek Z Young! - Baek Z Young!
Hello.
She's known as the original girl crush star in Korea.
From a cool, charismatic singer,
she transformed into an actress and has been playing...
in many dramas and movies. Shim Eun Jin of Baby V.O.X!
Baby V.O.X!
Hello.
She's the creator of December 32.
(The creator of December 32)
That's the song.
(The ballad fairy became a mother of three children.)
She's back as a mother of three children.
- The great ballad singer, Byul! - Byul!
Hello.
He's like the winning lottery that hasn't been scratched off.
He lost 32kg in only 4 months.
Now, he's the icon of triumph. Songwriter Yoo Jae Hwan!
Hello. I'm Yoo Jae Hwan.
You lost a lot of weight.
Hold on a second. So, did you lose 32kg...
in four months from the day you decided to lose weight?
That's right. I didn't stop dieting.
The weight loss plateau didn't last long either.
I continued losing weight until I lost 32kg.
- He's amazing. - It's not easy to do.
How much did you weigh before losing weight?
I weighed 107kg, but I weigh 72kg now.
- You weighed 107kg? - Yes, and I weigh 72kg now.
- But there's a margin of error. - That's right.
Considering the margin of error, I lost 32kg.
- I see. - Yes.
He became much more confident after losing weight.
He became more confident about his looks.
So he uploads his photos on social media very often.
And even when he laughs, he tries to look cool.
Does he?
- He's biting his lower lip. - Why are you biting your lip?
Are you Na Hoon A?
It's true. I tend to try to look cool these days.
That's annoying.
- In fact, it's great to enjoy... - Of course.
- the feeling of accomplishment. - Absolutely.
- He deserves to enjoy it. - He should enjoy the feeling.
- Thank you. - They're wearing unusual outfits.
Especially Z Young's hair and makeup...
- Are those the 1990s style? - She looks great.
Yes. In the 1990s,
- it was trendy... - Emphasized upper lip.
Yes. We used to line the upper lip with dark-colored lip liner.
I was supposed to use more brownish pink,
but I thought I would look too old-fashioned.
So I got gradient lips instead.
- You look great. - I feel like I'm back in the 1990s.
No wonder why I felt as if your lips got bigger.
- I was wondering why. - It was her makeup.
Back then, this makeup style was in fashion.
- Back then, everyone did the same. - Yes.
- That's right. - Yes.
To be honest, I wanted to do the pigeon...
- No, the seagull eyebrows. - The seagull eyebrows.
- I wanted to do it, but... - Why didn't you do it?
I couldn't shave my eyebrows since I'll go on another show after this.
She could if she's going on "Gag Concert".
(She would go straight to the ocean.)
She looks so great.
- Byul, you are... - Yes?
wearing pigtail braids.
- I'm so worried because of my hair. - Why?
- Why? - I couldn't sleep last night.
- Why? - Why?
I'm too old for braids.
- Why? You look great. - I was asked...
to dress up as I did when I just debuted.
I have changed a lot since then, you know.
This is unnatural.
Oh, that's why you kept fidgeting with your hair.
I repeated braiding my hair and then undoing it.
- You still look young. - You look good.
Do I look okay?
- You look good. - It looks great on you.
Eun Jin also looks just as she did in the 1990s.
Just like Z Young, I used...
- brownish pink color on my lips. - I can see that.
I used to do makeup like this because I had this image...
- of a tough girl. - That's right.
- I remember that. - I did the lion's mane style too.
- That's right. - I wore a shag haircut.
My hair was always short.
Sitting between the two of them, I feel...
What a shame.
I feel so intimidated.
As soon as she saw me,
she said, "Z Young, I don't have any money."
If I had run into one of them...
on the street back in the days,
- You would've been in trouble. - I would've given all of my money.
- I'm serious. - In fact,
although I'm sitting next to them right now,
but I couldn't even dare to sit with them before.
What are you talking about? We debuted around the same time.
- I couldn't even imagine it. - That's nonsense.
Are you trying to look younger?
- No. - Exactly.
They're my senior by many years.
In what year did you debut?
- I was a teenager... - When did you make your debut?
- I mean... - When did you make your debut?
I made my debut in 2002.
- In 2002? - I debuted in 1999.
- In 1999? - As for me,
Baby V.O.X was formed in 1997,
- but I joined the group later... - They're my senior by many years.
- in 1998. - She's my senior.
- Hold on. I'm sorry, - By many years.
but did you really make your debut in 1999?
- Yes, in 1999. - It feels like it's been longer.
- No. - I feel like I've seen you...
- since the early 1990s. - That's not true.
It feels like it's been longer.
I made my debut in 1999.
I was in school when she made her debut.
That's enough.
- Why would you do that to her? - What I'm trying to say is...
There's only a three-year gap.
All the three of you are the stars from Online Tapgol Park.
I understand why the three of them were invited,
- but why is Jae Hwan here? - Why?
I'm here...
- To brag that you lost weight? - No.
Based on the analysis on the media data of different generations,
I'll explain the changes in K-pop.
- Exactly. He's a songwriter. - Like Lim Jin Mo?
He's the next Lim Jin Mo.
Exactly.
Jae Hwan is very good at...
He looks like Jin Mo too.
- He knows the K-pop history. - He gives in-depth explanations.
- Jin Ho is still very active, - They're quite similar.
- but Jae Hwan will succeed him. - That's right.
Here we go.
(The beat gets faster.)
(The modernized 1990s songs with EDM beats)
(Jae Hwan will tell you how to be a hipster at a club shortly.)
Z Young hasn't come on this show for a long time.
- It's been over three years. - Exactly.
You performed in North Korea too.
- It was last year. - I heard about it.
- You had Pyeongyang naengmyeon. - Yes, I did.
- I was so jealous. - Why does everyone talk about it?
You ate at Okryugwan.
- We all want to try it. - I understand.
(She sang "Like Being Shot by a Bullet" in Pyeongyang.)
(And Okryugwan's Pyeongyang naengmyeon drew attention.)
(I was excited about Pyeongyang naengmyeon as much as the concert.)
(Baek Z Young, a singer on a food trip)
It's exceeding my expectations.
I'm sorry to ask this, but how did it taste?
- Pyeongyang naengmyeon? - I was so curious.
- I mean, you went to Okryugwan. - The soup was very rich.
I heard they boil pheasant meat for a very long time to make broth.
- We barely eat pheasant meat. - That's true.
However, she ate the current style of Pyeongyang naengmyeon.
- You performed there too, right? - Yes.
My group went to North Korea to perform a gig in 2002.
It was when the land route was opened for the first time.
We all tried Pyeongyang naengmyeon with excitement.
But it was too bland like noodles in water.
- I see. - Yes.
- I know what you mean. - It was too bland.
- Pyeongyang naengmyeon changed. - I heard it changed a lot.
(The trends of both fashion and Pyeongyang naengmyeon changed.)
I see. Anyways, Z Young,
- you are a working mom. - Yes, I am.
How did you leave home today?
When my daughter was a newborn baby,
I whispered in her ear that I would have to go to work.
(Excuse me?)
- You made her give up... - I didn't want her to get stressed.
I said, "Ha Im, I will have to go out for work."
"I hope you won't cry when I leave home."
I kept telling her that since she couldn't even...
stand up or understand what I said.
She never cries when I leave home. Even today...
Although it doesn't suit the situation,
she said, "Goggoning," when I left.
- What does it mean? - It means "Good morning."
She says it to me in the morning in any situation.
Doesn't she cry at all?
I tell her that I'm going for work,
and she says, "Mom, work, goggoning."
- Really? - Yes.
- That's interesting. - That's a good way.
And Byul recently had her third baby.
Congratulations.
Is this your first TV appearance since her birth?
Yes, it is. Actually, it hasn't even been 100 days yet...
- since I gave birth to my daughter. - Oh, my.
- So... - I guess you already lost...
- your pregnancy weight. - Exactly. Where was your baby?
She came out of my belly.
She was looking right at her belly.
In fact, I came on this show right after I gave birth...
- to my second child, right? - That's right.
At the time, my husband and I had decided not to have any more babies.
- We both agreed on it. - You told us so.
We said in a lot of interviews that we wouldn't have more babies.
- And I held a concert too. - That's right.
- I said I was going to work... - I see.
really hard in many interviews.
I was so embarrassed.
(The princess was born.)
- Unlike you said in the interviews. - Exactly.
But didn't you plan to have another baby?
In fact, whenever my husband...
had a drink,
he would say, "I wonder how our daughter would look."
"What would it be like having a daughter?"
He said things like that.
That's so sweet.
Come to think of it, he started saying it...
when Jae Seok had...
- I have a daughter. - at a late age.
I think he started saying it after she was born.
- I think that's right. - Around that time, he suddenly...
started saying it since he met Jae Seok every week.
Also, Haha always wanted to...
have a daughter very much.
So, you don't plan to have...
- your fourth baby? - No.
She said she'll have another baby if I have my fourth baby.
Raising 4 children is completely different from raising 2.
- Why did you say that? - That's ridiculous.
- Being pregnant is lonely. - You can't compare it.
I see. You want someone around you to be pregnant too.
- I see. - She doesn't want to feel lonely.
Someone who can get pregnant.
- Find someone else. - She seems to get pregnant easily.
So I thought I could do it if she would be pregnant too.
It's true, but I won't have another baby.
She says it's true.
Eun Jin hasn't come on Happy Together for a long time.
How long has it been?
It's been 11 years.
If it's been 11 years, when did she come here?
(It was February, 2008!)
- She was very tough. - That's true.
(Cute)
(I didn't rap.)
(But she was still a tough girl.)
- It's been 11 years. - Yes.
- Fin.K.L's "Camping Club"... - "Camping Club".
became the talk of the town.
I'm sure many of your fans want to see...
Baby V.O.X reunited.
- I want that too. - The thing is...
Honestly, I have something to ask you about.
- What is it? - Go ahead.
- It's a question for Jae Seok. - Okay.
It's been talked about since "Infinite Challenge".
It's been long.
- On "Infinite Challenge". - That's right.
People wondered why Baby V.O.X didn't perform.
But we couldn't do it because we weren't invited.
- Let's do it on KBS. - I thought we invited you.
- Didn't we? - You didn't invite us.
- We didn't? - No, you didn't.
- Really? - Yes.
- How could they forget Baby V.O.X? - People shouldn't ask me...
why we weren't there. Why did you not invite us?
- But as far as I know... - You should...
- apologize to her first. - Apologize to her.
- Apologize. - Why won't you apologize?
I'm sorry.
- I sincerely apologize. - I didn't know that.
However, the way I've heard about it...
- We've tried to reach them. - Right.
But I heard Baby V.O.X members have trouble...
- meeting together. - That's not true.
But you still talk to each other. You still get along well.
- We get along well. - Do you?
They have a group chat.
- They regularly keep in touch. - If someone...
comes up with an opportunity to get together,
will you re-form the group?
If there's a good opportunity, we are willing to do it.
- Really? - Yes.
If that's how you feel,
- I will try to push for it. - He sounds so reliable.
Kan Mi Youn is getting married soon.
Right. In November.
I heard you are going to be...
giving a speech together at Mi Youn's wedding.
Why are you giving a speech instead of putting on a performance?
When EZ was getting married,
we sang at her wedding.
Mi Youn doesn't want us to sing because she might cry.
- I know how that feels. - Yes. Yes.
She is definitely going to cry.
- Really. - You'd get emotional.
You have to ask someone you are not terribly close to.
We didn't get emotional.
So we asked if we should sing "Killer".
- "Killer" would be nice. - That way she wouldn't cry.
- What if she still cries? - She would still cry.
Even if they sing "Killer", she would still cry.
I think she would cry as soon as she sees them.
She wouldn't cry if you sing "Paparazzi".
Paparazzi, paparazzi
(Both the lyrics and the dance will prevent her from getting emotional.)
She would stop crying then.
Jae Hwan, can you tell us about the history of the song "Paparazzi"?
Right. "Paparazzi" is one of the songs...
that turned music into a photograph.
- "Paparazzi" is. - It's the visualization of music.
(Well done.)
- I will stop at that. - He's precisely right.
- You are like Lim Jin Mo. - Yes.
Jae Hwan brought the so-called "Yoo Jae Hwan Effect".
Because of him, many people decided to go on a diet.
- Right. - Yes.
He lost 32kg.
Why did you suddenly decide to lose weight?
- My health got really bad. - Right.
I suffered from gout,
hypertension, hyperlipidemia...
I suffered from nearly all diseases caused by a bad lifestyle.
When you have gout, your feet hurt really badly.
Your feet hurt really badly.
- Even wind pains you. - Su Geun and Myung Soo have it.
I couldn't put on my shoes.
- You are wearing shoes. - Yes.
- I couldn't just sit and watch. - You couldn't.
- Yes. - My goodness.
When I lost weight,
my mother said she was grateful to me.
She thanked me for not inheriting her illness.
Mothers are...
One of the things my parents always say to me is this.
"You got bad traits from me."
My mother suffers from diabetes and many others.
Since I was fat, I was bound to develop it too.
She knew I was going to be just like her.
But when I lost weight,
I became healthy, and she thanked me for it.
Jae Hwan,
do some people not recognize you because of your changed appearance?
- I didn't recognize him. - I couldn't recognize him.
- That's how much he changed. - I have a dog...
named Myung Soo. Even my dog...
Your dog's name is Myung Soo?
My dog's name is Myung Soo. Yes.
You named him when you used to work with Myung Soo.
- Yes. - When I go home...
wearing a hat... Yes.
- He thinks I'm a stranger. - Does he bark?
When that happens, you must feel strangely excited.
Immensely excited. He doesn't recognize my face,
but he recognizes me by my scent and body odor.
When that happens, I feel good.
Do you have trouble using the face recognition technology?
Yes, I do.
Exactly when I dropped 28kg,
the face recognition technology stopped working.
It couldn't recognize my face.
What's fascinating is that it even struggles to read my fingerprint.
No way.
- That's broken. - Your fingerprint doesn't change.
Are you saying you lost your fingerprint?
- Did your fingerprint get thin? - Does your fingerprint change?
- I experienced it. - Your diction...
clearly improved.
There's another good thing.
I got much calmer.
- Right. You've gotten much calmer. - Right.
I think you got a bit dull too.
I lost a bit of sense of humor as well.
- You lost your sense of humor. - I lost my sense of humor.
He's my good friend, and he used to have a unique energy.
- You used to have a unique energy. - I used to have a unique energy.
I never want to go back to that time.
I am determined to not suffer from yo-yo effect.
By the way, during the pre-interview,
you said you want to know more about Jae Seok.
- About me? - Yes.
- What do you want to know? - What about him?
I sometimes...
contact him. I do it about once a year.
I contact him very carefully.
I want to say hello to him,
but I don't want to surprise him by sending a random message.
"Hello, Jae Seok. How are you?"
- His message is very long. - It's long, isn't it?
- He sounds very polite. - I pack everything.
- Yes. - He packs everything.
Do you know what's amazing?
His reply is exactly three times longer.
- Really? - Really?
Really?
I do that because he put his heart into it.
I can see that he really thought it through.
So I send him a heartfelt message too.
I've never received such a message from him.
I usually send him an emoji. The graph.
- Thumbs down. A monster. - The skull.
- Throwing-up face. - "The worst".
He sends the ones you didn't even know they existed.
It's three times longer, and it's really a heartfelt message.
- It warms my heart. - What does he say?
Is there a part that was particularly memorable?
What is it?
"I'm grateful that there is a character like you in this world."
("I'm grateful that there is a character like you.")
(There are always good stories about him.)
- Did I say that? - Yes.
Isn't that a saved message?
- No. - Didn't you copy and paste it?
I met Jae Hwan...
through "Infinite Challenge".
He used to work with Myung Soo...
as a songwriter.
Suddenly, he became a TV personality and rose to fame.
It felt really good to see...
a man like him being known to the world.
He sings well, and he's very talented.
- Thank you. - At the time, I thought,
"He can't grow if he's with Myung Soo."
"Myung Soo doesn't have what it takes to help him."
He began his career as Myung Soo's slave musician.
Myung Soo...
spotted a good person though.
He's got an eye for people.
- He's got good discernment. - He surely does.
Let's talk about today's special.
Today, it's about Online Tapgol Park.
- It's very popular these days. - Right.
Byul, I heard you were surprised...
- when you got the call. - Were you surprised?
First of all, it was my first time...
to hear the term, "Online Tapgol Park".
You didn't know what it was.
We all didn't know.
- You didn't know. - I knew.
- Right. - I...
- You heard it recently, right? - I didn't know.
I really had no idea.
- It became popular recently. - It became popular recently.
I heard it became popular recently.
I heard it features singers from the past.
"Singers from the past"?
- You got offended. - A little bit.
They feature singers from the 90s.
She's saying she's from the 2000s.
- She's a millennial. - Are you upset?
"I'm a millennial."
Wait. Wait.
- Wait. - When we talked...
- When we talked... - "I'm a millennial."
It made me feel good.
They called me Online Tapgol Chung Ha.
- How nice is that? I'm Chung Ha. - Right.
- Z Young. - It made me so happy.
So I called her and asked, "Are you featured there too?"
"How nice! It would be so fun."
And she said, "I don't belong to Online Tapgol Park yet."
- Wait. - She said that.
- Actually... - Let her explain.
When I heard about Online Tapgol Park,
I asked who was featured.
I heard there were Z Young and others, and I thought,
"Isn't Z Young too experienced?"
"Is it okay to be there with her?"
But people called me...
- Online Tapgol IU. - Online Tapgol IU.
- "IU? All right then." - She's like IU.
(Get nervous. Online Tapgol IU is coming.)
"If I'm IU, I should be there."
Online Tapgol IU?
- "If I'm IU, I should be there." - It suits you.
So I booked an appointment with a dermatologist right away.
She's Online Tapgol Chung Ha, and you are Online Tapgol IU.
They are right. When Byul first debuted,
- she was like IU. - Yes.
Don't they compare you to anyone, Eun Jin?
- People say she's Tzuyu. - Online Tapgol Tzuyu?
- Yes. - She's got Tzuyu's face.
But she's like the feisty version.
- They are right. I can see it. - Online Tapgol Tzuyu.
(They look alike like sisters.)
- They are very similar. - My goodness.
She looks feisty.
- They are similar. - Do we look alike?
- They look alike. - They do look very much alike.
By the way, when...
we mentioned Online Tapgol Park,
they all weren't too happy.
But when they were compared to Tzuyu, IU,
and Chung Ha...
- I am very pleased. - They are happy.
We should use this method to persuade people to be on our show.
- It would make everyone happy. - Right.
If I were to compare us to a girl group that's popular now,
that is if I am to choose a girl group similar to Baby V.O.X...
Baby V.O.X was the first...
idol girl group with a rapper.
- And we danced intensely. - Right.
I looked up if there was...
an idol girl group like that now.
- I think it is BLACKPINK. - BLACKPINK.
There's also Brown Eyed Girls. I think they are similar to us.
- Eun Jin was the tough one. - Right.
- Yes. - Yes.
Her fashion and hairstyle made her look feisty.
She danced powerfully too.
I used to have short hair then.
At the time, I thought I was a man. I even wore men's cologne.
- Really? - I was completely...
- You were immersed in it. - I was immersed in it.
I used to swagger too.
Did your agency ask you to be like that?
I became...
the tough one when we came out with "Killer".
They kept cutting my hair short for that concept.
Right. Right.
Baby V.O.X was very popular abroad.
- Yes. - They were the first.
- They were the first. - Yes.
- We first went there in 1999. - Go where?
- China. - China.
- It was a sensation. - At the time,
we were the only girl group to have done that.
Boy groups that had done it were...
H.O.T. and NRG.
- NRG was popular. - NRG.
So...
we got more and more popular,
and we debuted in Thailand too.
It was during the 2002 World Cup.
A lot of Thai fans...
came to the airport.
The airport was packed.
All those people...
Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Republic of Korea.
They changed it to this. Clap, clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. Baby V.O.X.
They welcomed us with that clap.
It must've felt so thrilling.
- Yes. - No way.
We were so surprised.
(She still can't forget the touching feeling of that day.)
I shot a video of it.
I was so touched by it.
When we were leaving Thailand,
they all sang "Missing You" in Korean.
No way. That was such a long time ago.
(Thai fans put on a touching event.)
They were amazing then,
- and they are still amazing. - They are incredible.
Jae Hwan, you are honored to meet them.
Of course.
These three singers led the Korean music scene,
and they pioneered new genres.
You did an analysis of the three singers.
Yes. I analyzed them as a producer. In Z Young's case...
People always argued this.
They said a good singer can't be a good dancer,
and a good dancer can't be a good singer.
- Right. - But she's good at both.
She's the first singer who shattered that stereotype.
Yes.
- His analysis is spot-on. - He will succeed...
- Lim Jin Mo. - His analysis is spot-on.
- It was nice. - It was short...
- and sweet. - It was persuasive.
Z Young performed "Dash"...
without lip-syncing.
- She actually sang it. - I couldn't believe...
- she sang and danced. - Seriously.
Had she debuted in the present day,
she would have become even more popular.
She had incredible singing and dancing skills.
To which pop star would you compare her?
I personally think she can beat...
- Christina Aguilera. - Christina Aguilera.
Britney Spears.
- Beyonce. - I see the resemblance.
She is on par with them.
- There should be a match. - Yes.
She can beat them.
I don't know about Beyonce, but I can beat Christina Aguilera.
That's right.
- You won't win in a fistfight. - She has...
- incredible skills. - Yes.
- Thank you. - She went down in history.
- I want to make that clear. - You know,
it's an honor to live the same time period as her.
That's right.
That was so insincere.
It's not easy to give such an insincere comment.
I am sorry.
- The next one is Byul. - Byul.
Byul was the first person to add a day to a month.
How nice! It's a nice start.
- That's right. - It grabs my attention.
- It's nice. - She was the first person...
to add the 32nd day to a month.
It's a musical achievement.
Also, she has a unique voice.
Stars shine, right?
No matter where she is...
Even if she sings a cappella, her voice stands out.
Her voice has a fingerprint.
My goodness.
- "Her voice has a fingerprint." - I love his expressions.
"Her voice has a fingerprint."
Had it not gone well, he would have sounded like a crook.
"Her voice has a fingerprint."
What do I need to buy?
I almost took out my wallet.
Buy my songs.
- I will sell my songs. - It will be abroad.
Which foreign pop star reminds you of Byul?
A foreign pop star? There is no one like her.
Byul is the star in the sky.
(The unrivaled singer with a celestial voice, Byul)
She isn't human.
Does it make you happy?
- He said there is no one like you. - I am really happy.
I am really happy.
He said you are the star in the sky. How about Eun Jin?
- I am excited. - Eun Jin is like...
the textbook of the industry. She should be included...
in the school curriculum since every elementary schooler...
sang "Coincidence" and "Get Up" at a retreat.
- It was a must. - We learned these songs...
from older siblings as if they were traditional children's songs.
Those older siblings also learned them from someone.
- That's right. - These songs got passed down...
- through word of mouth. - What are you going to sell?
I am going to sell songs.
- I should buy one. - He is going to sell songs.
I should buy one.
Thus, every student from the era...
- knows her songs and dances. - That's right.
It was like a part of the school curriculum.
- The school curriculum! - She is...
one of the important artists.
The textbook.
That's right.
- She is the best. - People might misunderstand,
but you have a nickname, "Assemble Master Baek".
Do you make the junior singers assemble a lot?
It's not like that. People gave me that nickname...
when "House Cook Master Baek" became popular.
Do you make the junior singers assemble a lot?
I have never made anyone assemble.
- Then why is your nickname... - We can testify.
- She has never done that. - You know...
- I am not like that. - You aren't like that.
You have assembled voluntarily, right?
They have assembled to say hello to me, but...
- Listen. - She never said anything.
Are there times...
- They assembled voluntarily. - No, no.
Are there times you expressed your displeasure?
I never did that.
However, I was a solo artist among the groups.
Sometimes, a solo artist and a group share the waiting room.
- That's right. - It happens.
When they got too loud,
I said, "Shall we quiet down a bit?"
(Freezing)
You can say that, but...
- You can say that, but... - It's okay to say that!
(What's wrong with that?)
- Or... - Did you ask that nicely?
Did you ask that nicely?
Are you sure you didn't shout?
I didn't shout.
Let's demonstrate.
- Hey, hey. - Come on.
- Come on. - Hey.
- What is it? - Hey, shall we quiet down a bit?
- What? - Hey, shall we quiet down a bit?
We need to talk. We will quiet down later.
Imagine someone said that.
She looks so scary.
No one said that.
- Right? - No one said that.
You got angry, right?
- It was only a demonstration. - How scary!
- You got angry, right? - You are a good actor.
- It was only a demonstration. - How scary!
She got angry for a second.
- She got angry for a second. - I know.
Z Young got angry for a second.
You think that image came from Kim Chang Ryul.
- That's what I think. - Why?
I never made anyone assemble.
There was even a rumor that I hit someone.
- That's right. - I never hit anyone.
I never pinched anyone...
and went, "Don't do that!" However,
there are male singers who are well-known to be scary.
There's Lee Ha Neul and Kim Chang Ryul.
- In any case... - You are naming names.
In any case, they kept going around saying,
"I am scared of Z Young."
They did say that often.
That made people think, "She must be the worst..."
"because those men are scared of her."
That's why people misunderstand.
Chang Ryul and I have been friends even before we debuted.
We know each other's embarrassing past.
Even if I say scold him,
he goes, "All right."
People who saw you scold him...
- must have spread rumors. - That's right.
I think that's the case.
She was never like that in real life.
Now that I know her,
I have many stories of her good deeds.
- Can you tell us one? - Tell us one.
For example, Z Young and I...
presented awards...
at the Melon Music Awards.
We were at the Gocheok Sky Dome with 30,000 people.
Once I entered the stage, I felt an oncoming panic attack.
My heart was beating so fast. I felt so anxious.
I grabbed her hand and said, "Z Young, feel my heart."
Then I put her hand on my chest.
Surprised, she asked,
"Why is your heart beating so fast?"
Then she said,
"I hope the world will see how pure you are."
It was dark behind the stage. She grabbed my hand...
and guided me until the end.
She grabbed my hand.
I thought, "Why are there bad rumors about her?"
"She is so warmhearted."
He made it sound so touching.
How did it actually happen?
The moment ended in seconds.
(The moment ended in seconds.)
- We were behind the stage. - I get it.
- He said he was so nervous. - I get it.
- His heart was beating so fast. - It was about to jump out.
- That's right. - I said, "You are so pure."
It was rather simple.
- Didn't you hold his hand? - Was it over in a minute?
"You are so pure. I hope people would know that."
I didn't sound that heartwarming.
He did tell the truth.
I guess he did.
Since it was really dark and he was nervous,
I grabbed his hand.
- No, she held my hand tight. - That's all.
You didn't hold his hand and lead the way for a while.
No, I didn't.
I see that Jae Hwan has a talent...
of turning a story into a fairy tale.
I was surprised by my own story.
(The one who did the good deed doesn't know how to react.)
I almost shed tears upon hearing my story.
Please make stories of good deeds for me.
- Please make them up. - Seriously.
- I only tell the truth. - Please make them up.
Jae Hwan is the storyteller of good deeds.
- This is hilarious. - You know,
you should do something nice and ask him to spread the story.
- I have many stories. - I should treat him better.
Treat him better.
Z Young, you think Eun Jin is the scary one.
- That's what I think. - Bury her reputation.
- Z Young. - There is a reason why I say that.
To be honest, there are rumors of Eun Jin hitting someone.
- That's right. - There are many rumors.
- No! - I never hit anyone,
but I wouldn't be surprised if she has.
- Seriously. - Don't throw her under the bus.
I didn't think much about who could be the scary one,
but I heard Eun Jin's name...
and immediately thought, "It's her."
(Eun Jin is the scary one.)
- Why? - I can explain.
- Why? - Baby V.O.X and I were active...
around the same time, but we were so busy...
that we never became close friends...
- despite meeting multiple times. - That's right.
I thought hard about why I think Eun Jin is scary.
I saw this at a radio station.
As I passed by, I heard people's raised voices.
I heard, "And why would that be a problem?"
- You heard that. - Eun Jin said that.
- Why did I say that? - It happened a long time ago...
at the SBS radio station.
She wouldn't remember.
"And why would that be a problem?" I was reminded of her "Killer" days.
- She was expressionless. - That made you acknowledge her.
"I see she is like that. She is scary."
I am like that.
- If I see something... - She asked that.
that is cowardly, unjust, or incomprehensible...
- Unfair. - That's right.
I can't stand those things. I am the type...
who needs to ask questions.
I don't care if I suffer alone,
but if the bandmates are involved...
- You take action. - I call it Joan of Arc Syndrome.
I have to take action.
- You have that image. - It was worse...
back then.
There is a rumor that you resorted to violence...
when your bandmates did something wrong.
I heard it so many times.
I apologize. It's all in the past,
but we want to clear up the bad rumors.
You are just, so you could have punished...
- a bandmate. - I feel so attacked.
You have been on a program with Yoon Eun Hye.
She was known for her strength.
- That's right. - That's right.
- I even sang with her. - She is...
She is really strong.
As for Mi Youn, she can carry a TV by herself.
- Mi Youn? - Yes. She is...
skinny but daring.
- Mi Youn... - But hitting has nothing to do...
- with strength. - That's right.
There are strong people who get beaten up.
It's all about taking control with your charisma.
- It's all about charisma. - You know,
- Mi Youn is someone... - She didn't have to use her fists.
who hits a sandbag at a gym.
That's right.
- One time... - Eun Jin is so upset...
- by the rumor. - One time, she was on...
a KBS program.
She received the nickname of Female Lee Seung Youp.
She broke a block of ice...
- with a baseball bat. - Strong people are timid.
EZ and I couldn't break it,
but Mi Youn broke it in one go.
If there is a rumor about a singer hitting someone with a baseball bat,
it would be Mi Youn.
What are you talking about?
- I mean... - Don't throw your bandmate...
- under the bus! - Eun Jin.
- You know, - I mean...
- her wedding is coming up. - Her wedding is coming up.
How could you say that?
I am saying I don't know how to swing a baseball bat.
- You were giving an example. - Good going.
She meant to say that it's a groundless rumor.
Mi Youn with a baseball bat.
The story ended...
with how Mi Youn can swing a baseball bat.
- All right. - Mi Youn, congrats on your wedding!
(We hope you will ignore the rumors and live happily.)
Byul, you have always had...
- the upright image. - That's right.
- I don't stand out in any way. - You didn't have...
many misunderstandings or rumors, right?
I had the opposite problem.
I didn't seem like a celebrity,
but a girl-next-door.
People thought I would smile a lot...
and act cute,
but I was extremely introverted...
in the past.
I was chic.
- You had the opposite problem. - Yes.
When people actually met me,
they wondered, "Is she mean?"
I had that problem.
"She is a newly-debuted singer."
- "Does she think she is a star?" - Also,
I became successful...
- as soon as I debuted. - That's right.
I debuted through JYP Entertainment.
People thought, "Is she cocky because she is from a big agency?"
- "She is cocky." - That was one misunderstanding.
In retrospect, I regret my past behaviors.
Let's say I see someone younger who talks to me easily like,
"Hello, have you had a meal?"
It makes me think, "She is so friendly and nice."
It makes me want to look after her.
- It's human nature. - I know.
I only realized it now.
I couldn't do that when I was younger.
Back then, you sat in the corner and read a book.
- I read a book. - You wore earphones.
In the waiting room...
I was really annoying, right?
- Yes, you were. - Reading a book...
could have been interpreted nicely,
but reading a book while wearing earphones means,
- "Don't interrupt me." - "Don't talk to me."
- That's right. - I see why people misunderstood.
I think the genre played a role.
I am a ballad singer.
When actors play their roles,
- they become immersed. - That's right.
They focus even when...
- the camera isn't running. - That's right.
I can't fool around...
before I sing a ballad song,
so I had to keep my emotions down.
Because of that image,
my husband told me,
"You used to be annoying."
He says,
"Those ballad singers act all haughty!"
(The words of the prince of reggae)
"They make it clear..."
"that they sing ballad songs."
"They act all haughty. They are so annoying."
He told me that.
Byul, there is a misunderstanding you are worried about.
What kind of misunderstanding is that?
Oh, it's...
- I read articles, right? - Yes.
When I post photos on SNS, some people comment,
"Do you only get plastic surgery..."
"with the money your husband earns?"
As you know, I spent the past few years...
- having babies. - You had babies.
I gained and lost weight repeatedly.
That's why my face changed.
I want to make it clear that...
while my face isn't completely natural...
(Flustered)
You had some cosmetic procedures.
That's right. While my face isn't completely natural,
I didn't get any major surgeries.
It's uncomfortable to sit next to her.
Later on...
Judging from the way your jacket is on your shoulders,
you will make the guests assemble later on.
- I am sweating. - Okay.
When I heard about...
this special,
I knew old clips would surface.
I looked them up and saw that my face has changed a lot.
- You became prettier. - You don't look much different.
You don't look much different.
Viewers don't see us...
- in real life. - That's right.
They see us through photos and such.
She looks the same.
Are you implying Z Young doesn't?
Z Young, you look the same too.
You look the same.
No, I shouldn't look the same.
You know, there is...
- a subtle difference. - She spent money on her face.
Don't say she looks the same.
- That's right. - Recently, someone sent me...
a screenshot of my performance of "Dash".
I couldn't help but laugh...
because I looked so different.
I had the last cosmetic procedure in my mid-20s.
I didn't get anything done after marriage.
All of you are active from the 90s to now.
Many things must have changed since the 90s.
What changed?
Z Young, what changed the most?
I think the biggest change lies...
in the atmosphere during the shoot...
and after the shoot.
- That's right. - I agree.
You are right.
These days, everyone leaves before the ending performance.
Back then, we stayed behind until the ending performance...
and celebrated with the winner.
If the winner threw a party, we went over.
- Really? - Yes, it was like that.
Whenever there was a music program,
restaurants and clubs...
- had to be booked. - They had to be reserved...
- in advance. - That's right.
- Really? - I heard it was worse before us.
- Of course it was. - Yes.
The senior artists looked at us and said that...
things have changed a lot.
Back in my days, the singers just went home.
- Oh. - For goodness' sake.
- I am serious. - In the early 2000s...
- I never waited. - Things changed drastically.
I was surprised by the drastic change.
We made the comeback at the same time.
(Eun Jin states the fact!)
I think that culture was present around Byul's time.
Byul simply didn't go.
She always read books with earphones in her ears.
It's no wonder she didn't hear.
- There is another change. - Maybe I never got invited.
Back in the days, the restrictions were stricter.
I remember that...
the singers couldn't have dyed hair.
- Piercings weren't allowed. - We couldn't have dyed hair.
- Men couldn't wear earrings. - Piercings weren't allowed.
Earrings and dyed hair weren't allowed.
In the beginning, dyed hair was allowed.
- Then the rules suddenly changed. - That's right.
The rules changed overnight,
- so I had to put... - People wore bandanas.
- dark hairspray on my hair. - I did the same.
The color turned strange at times.
When we sweated, it melted down our faces.
- That's right. - Like hair fibers.
There were many strange restrictions.
That's right.
A lot of them were incomprehensible.
Z Young, I heard you struggled a lot because of that.
I was active...
from the days of no restrictions to the days of heavy restrictions.
So I used to wear a bra top with tassels...
and a short skirt.
Then they said I can't show too much skin.
- The rules changed. - I think I remember that.
Yes. Because...
the restriction was quite strict,
we had to get our costumes checked during the rehearsal.
If our costumes didn't pass,
we had to wear something dark underneath.
It couldn't be light since it resembled the skin.
- That's right. - There were clothing restrictions.
- There were clothing restrictions. - I had to wear...
something dark underneath the costume.
People always came by to check...
- before we took the stage. - That's right.
You are right!
Now that you mentioned it, I remember.
Z Young was on the blacklist.
Baby V.O.X was probably on the blacklist too.
Since we were on the blacklist for always wearing skimpy clothes,
they came to check on us first.
That costume wouldn't have passed.
It would have passed. It doesn't show my navel.
We couldn't show our navels.
Women couldn't show their navels.
Men couldn't show their chests.
When I performed "Dash" on music programs,
I had vinyl pants...
that had clear parts right here.
- It showed your hip bones. - Other parts were covered.
I guess the stylist wanted me to wear revealing clothes.
Those clear parts became wider.
- In the end, - I know which costume you mean.
they told me to fix the costume.
I had to put fabric against the clear parts.
That's incredible.
Jae Hwan, you once didn't meet the censorship either.
It wasn't about a dance or a performance.
- Since I am a lyricist... - Your lyrics?
It was about my lyrics.
The lyrics were put under scrutiny too.
I have a song titled "Don't Start".
I made it for the Ministry of Drug and Food Safety.
A part of the lyrics went, "It's everywhere."
The KBS review board told me that...
it sounds like "Buddha".
- Buddha? - Yes. They told me...
not to use the lyrics since it was about a religion.
- But it was "Everywhere". - It wasn't about a religion.
It just sounded that way.
- It just sounded that way. - Yes.
They said it sounds like "Buddha".
I had to change the lyrics.
Producers often do that.
Jae Hwan actually had to change the lyrics.
When I was back with "I Won't Love",
the higher-ups said it encourages low childbirth.
- No way. - Are you serious?
Are you serious? That's ridiculous.
They said it encourages low childbirth.
It was about being unable to love due to heartache.
Thankfully, it didn't lead to a ban.
They also said TVXQ's "Mirotic" encourages...
- What does it encourage? - They said...
- it encourages... - Hallucination.
the state of hallucination.
If we travel further back in time,
the senior artists...
- couldn't use... - That's right.
English words for the group names.
Those who had used English words...
- changed the names. - Really?
- Really? - Cherry Boy had to change...
his stage name.
- Really? - Yes.
Bunny Girls...
- had to do the same. - Bunny Girls.
- That's why they changed it. - That's right.
Back then, they said songs had a big impact on society.
The lyrics had to be clean.
- Yes. - The lyrics had to be clean.
It was a must.
Such strict restrictions were...
- still prevalent... - That's right.
- in the 90s. - Yes.
That's right.
I heard that the dance changed a lot as well.
How did it change?
I watched my old performances and saw that...
it was all about the energy.
- Power. - I was too energetic.
Right.
It was like throwing punches...
from start to end.
- What kind of punches? - Counterpunches.
- No dynamics. - No dynamics.
The dance had no dynamics.
There's no drama.
Can't you show us?
- Show us. - It's been a long time.
(Return of Z Young's wild performance)
- Go, Ha Im's mother! - You should show us.
Right now?
I would do this now.
- She dances so well. - I would do this now.
- But then... - How about then?
(She danced wildly.)
I danced like this.
- You were too full of energy. - Yes. I was too full of energy.
That's how it was.
Upon hearing that I'm Online Tapgol Chung Ha,
I watched her performance.
The choreography these days is at another level.
- It completely changed. - The details are different.
And the camera movements are very different too.
They edit the cuts...
like a music video too.
Back then, there were sentiments of the past.
But now, you watch it like it's an artwork.
When you think about it,
the movements were big too.
- Right. - Right. Right.
- Very restrained. - There was a lot of this.
- A lot of people did this. - Sechs Kies too.
A lot of people did it.
Your movements had to be big.
- It looked more flashy that way. - It looked more flashy.
In our times, jazz dance was in trend.
- Right. - There were a lot of jazz moves.
These days, groovy moves are more common.
Can you show us?
- Z Young. - Z Young is back.
- But... - Please give it up for her.
Come on!
("Sad Salsa" by Baek Z Young)
"Sad Salsa".
(Fasten your seatbelts.)
(We will now travel down the memory lane.)
(Her cells remember the move.)
It was so powerful.
(She's got the golden silhouette.)
(She put on a lot of mind-blowing performances before getting here.)
(I am...)
(the queen of Latin dance.)
I used to really like this song.
- I was a huge fan of this song. - I was too.
I used to really like this.
(She relaxedly exudes her passion.)
(This is how much energy I had before being hit by a bullet.)
Was it this?
Right. That's it.
- I used to copy this dance. - So many people copied it.
There's none other.
- "Get Up". - "Get Up".
("Get Up" by Baby V.O.X)
(She's both elegant and cool.)
Right.
(Before this night passes)
Right. That's it.
(Get up! Look at my silhouette.)
All right!
- "Killer". - "Killer".
That's it.
(We can't stop thinking about how charming she was then.)
(She's got the mean charisma.)
(Shim Eun Jin)
(Welcome to 1999.)
In the past, there were a lot of...
body-brushing moves.
- Yes. - This was popular.
- It's tough. - It's the jazz influence.
I haven't seen someone doing this in a long time.
- Right. This. - It's been a really long time.
- That was great. - Right.
Z Young's dance was always amazing,
but her facial expressions on stage were really something.
- Really? - Of course.
I am always just smiling.
People say your dancing style has changed,
but your facial expressions are the same.
This is where it came from.
Cameras would take a close-up shot of our faces.
We practiced looking at the cameras, didn't we?
We were trained to look at the camera with the red light.
We looked at the camera as if we were going to eat it up.
Right. People used to use that expression a lot.
- So... - Right.
I imagined that I had just eaten something sour.
- Imagine you just ate a sour thing. - You just ate something sour.
- You had something sour. - Show us.
Then your eyes become like this.
(It's so sour!)
- It becomes like this. - It does.
- Your mouth opens a little. - Right.
- You look emotional. - You become like this.
That makes me look a little sexier.
- Sourness gives that impression. - Sourness gives that impression.
That's the trick I used.
How about you, Byul?
- You are a ballad singer. - It's different for ballad singers.
When the red light turns on,
dance singers have to stare right into the camera.
But if a ballad singer looks straight into the camera,
- You can't do that. - the viewer feels uncomfortable.
Every person has the angle from which you look great.
You have to look away in a stylish way, at that angle.
You have to look away in a stylish way,
- Right. - at that angle.
- You have to look away. - You have to look away.
A ballad singer needs a nice jawline.
You turn your head at 45-degree angle.
My left side of the face looks better.
So if the camera was there, I did this.
If the camera was there, I turned my face like this.
If the camera was there, I did this.
- I constantly looked away. - Isn't it too low?
Right. I never faced the camera directly.
- Everyone does a different thing. - I turned my face slightly.
In my case,
when I was singing "December 32"...
It wasn't intentional.
It's not a dramatic song.
So I couldn't move my hand.
- So I folded my hands together. - Right.
- I held the mic with both hands. - You did this.
You can't look like...
you know a lot of things.
You can't look like you know a lot of things?
You can't try to express a lot of things with your eyes.
This is funny.
- You have to... - It must've been tough.
You have to fix your gaze at one point.
You have to appear to know nothing.
(I don't know anything.)
I just moved my neck.
(She perfectly portrayed a young girl's sentiments.)
I just moved my neck.
(She communicated with her neck movement.)
That's funny.
- It's funny. - They are...
revealing their know-hows.
- There's more. - My goodness.
When you don't blink your eyes often,
your eyes get tearful.
- Right. Right. - Right.
- Of course. - You make your eyes hurt.
Your eyes have to be tearful.
- "She's going to cry." - Right.
It makes people concentrate.
I had no idea you had such know-hows.
Eun Jin, do you have know-hows like that too?
I have a story to tell.
When we were performing "Killer",
I had strong eyes.
- Right. - That's when it all started.
I will say this since it's all in the past.
We had a lot of anti-fans then.
We were making a comeback performance.
It was the first performance of "Killer".
The 9pm news reporter wanted to interview us...
before the show.
That made us even more sensitive.
(The actual news footage)
(They sent blackmails and spread bad rumors.)
(Leader of Baby V.O.X, EZ)
We went up the stage.
They all remained silent.
And they flicked up...
- their middle fingers. - My goodness.
That day, it really upset me.
How can you perform in front of such people?
I thought I would...
vent out my anger...
on the cameras.
(She picked a wrong target.)
- Avoid her. - The cameramen...
- must've freaked out. - What have they done wrong?
(The innocent cameramen must've gotten scared.)
I was so upset that I stared at the cameras angrily.
I did this.
While singing, I had glaring eyes.
- I looked really intense. - She already has big eyes.
After the performance, the agency CEO called.
I thought I was going to be yelled at.
I thought I overdid it.
I thought I didn't act like a professional.
Thinking that I would get yelled at, I was daunted.
"Yes, sir. Yes."
"Eun Jin." "Yes?"
"That's it!"
It went viral.
We had this arm movement.
Whenever I did this, I looked at the camera like this.
I gradually moved my gaze up.
- That's intense. - It's intense.
You were angry.
(They became Korea's girl crush group.)
Did the song lyrics change since then?
I will explain this as a music expert.
That would be great.
In the early 90s,
all the songs were about up above.
All the songs were about the sky.
- Right. - That's right.
That's it.
(She sings it too.)
("Why Is the Sky" by Lee Jee Hoon)
- All the songs were about passing. - It was always about passing.
- Right. - "Higher Than Me".
That's Shin Seung Hun's song.
- He sent the person up. - He sent the person up.
("Higher Than Me" by Shin Seung Hun)
(He captured women's hearts with his sorrowful eyes.)
Kim Don Gyu's "My Own Love".
- He does that too. - It's "My Own Grief".
("My Own Grief" by Kim Don Gyu)
(In this song, he's the one who's passed.)
Jo Sung Mo's "To Heaven".
- "To Heaven". - That's it.
There's that too.
By relating their love to death, they sought to sound sincere.
That's right.
Love equaled life.
You could give your everything.
- Real love. - That's right.
If Mr. Lim sees this, he would be willing...
- to accept him as his pupil. - Right.
- Thank you. - That's pure love.
How about now?
So that time passed.
From 2000 onwards,
it's been like this.
If I am hurt, you have to be hurt too.
You get it, don't you?
If I cry, you will shed tears of blood.
("I Am a Man" by Park Ji Yoon)
(The expression got bolder.)
("Crazy" by Lee Jung Hyun)
"I won't bear the sadness alone."
- Right. - "You deserve to suffer too."
"If I struggle, you must struggle too."
"If I am happy, you should be happy too."
"I will get away from you. Live well."
("Bruise" by Kim Hyun Jung)
(I hope you will meet someone just like you)
This is when self-regard...
became part of love.
But it's different now. Ballad songs these days are...
- What's the trend? - about delicate emotions.
It's like secretly sharing their diary with us.
- Like "Where Are You Now". - Paul Kim is one.
There's Paul Kim.
There are many singers like that.
("Me After You" by Paul Kim)
It's about small things.
But it conveys your feelings.
("Gift" by MeloMance)
(It's like sharing your emotion you secretly wrote in your diary.)
("The Snowman" by Jung Seung Hwan)
(It's all about sharing your delicate emotion.)
- That's the current trend. - Right. That's the current trend.
- Right. - I think that Jae Hwan...
is finding his own niche market.
I felt like I was watching the news.
- I liked it. - He sounded like a critic.
What kind of lyrics will trend next?
- In my opinion... - I need to keep this in mind.
It'll all be about showing the emotions.
For the first time, all three are facing him.
Instead of focusing on the sounds of words, like pictures...
- A depiction? - Exactly.
- Can you give us an example? - For instance... What do you think?
What about this?
A night
Exactly.
These kinds of lyrics will be on-trend in the future.
When was this song released?
- Maybe in the 60s? - It's the one I'm releasing.
- What? - Seriously?
It was intended.
Let's hear the song properly then.
- What's its title? - Of course.
- It's called "We". - "We".
- Please sing it for us. - Can we hear it?
(We used to care for each other in every way we could)
(So why must we part ways now?)
(Why on earth)
(Have things changed between us so much?)
(She has a heart-wrenching but warm voice.)
That's how it goes.
(A ballad only Baek Z Young can pull off.)
It's been a while since we heard her ballads.
- That was amazing. - Goodness.
Were the lyrics on-trend?
Yes, it was like a page out of a diary.
"Why us?" That's what you write in diaries.
You write down all the emotions you're feeling.
- Right. - It's an amazing song.
I like it too.
We should go on shows together more often.
When I'm with him,
- I don't have to explain my songs. - He's the best.
- "Why us?" - He's my spokesperson.
When you need to promote your new song,
you should ask Jae Hwan to join you.
- Exactly. - My gosh.
He's good at giving meanings to everything.
Ballads usually are of sad lyrics.
You mentioned earlier that it's not easy to sing them though.
As you know, the lyrics are about breakups,
- longing, yearning... - Pain and agony.
You also sing about not being able to live without the other.
- Right. - That's why you can't...
look too healthy on stage.
You can't look bloated from devouring a buffet the day before.
- You don't seem genuine. - You can't...
look like you ate a hearty meal.
You can't seem bloated.
- How about steaks? - No way.
- You can't look like that. - I can relate to it so well.
Of course, it wouldn't seem sincere.
You need to seem like you're malnourished and sleep-deprived.
- Right. - You must seem gaunt.
Think of Kang Susie back in the day.
- So that's really a thing. - You can't frown too much...
when you're hitting high notes either.
During my days as a trainee,
I'd record myself performing and rehearsing.
Just think of the trainees' monthly evaluations.
I trained in an era where those existed.
A lot has changed since their time.
You keep emphasizing on the fact that...
- you trained in the millennium. - We're not the same.
A lot changed since their time.
This I don't know about.
They had monthly evaluations during my time.
Yes, you're right.
- The system was different. - I'm like them in some ways...
but I also received the training that K-pop idols receive these days.
You're an inbetweener.
Yes, so please have me on the show when you invite current K-pop idols.
(Like the Central Park Song Festival Special?)
I'm only joking. Anyway, I practiced so that...
- I didn't frown. - How does one do that?
- What about the high notes? - Is it possible?
Practicing worked, so I was able...
to not frown while singing.
But on the downside,
- it made me look like a robot. - Really?
- Can you show us? - Like this.
It's the 32nd
- I just frowned, right? - Right.
But I was like this.
(The robot doesn't even blink.)
- You look like a robot. - Like an AI robot.
The direct comparison...
That's how I looked.
- So I changed it up after that. - How?
I'd frown a little and bend over at times.
I did that even though the notes weren't that difficult.
- They weren't that high but... - It was for show.
- You put on a show. - That's so honest of you.
The singer has to make the song look difficult to sing...
- for people to relate to it. - That's right.
If you sing it too effortlessly,
- no one will relate to it. - In other words,
it's a way to sell the song.
- Right. - Of course.
Byul, the Online Tapgol IU,
shows us that she's different from the others.
She'll sing IU's song.
Nice one!
I don't know how IU will find this but...
(Before there was the talented and sweet IU,)
(another star was known as the nation's sister.)
(It's Byul.)
(It's as if you'll disappear somewhere far away)
(It's why I always yearn for you)
(All the words I wish to say)
(I can't possibly tell you every word)
(But I love you)
(Her voice still touches our hearts.)
- My gosh. - That was amazing!
She was just about to hit a high note.
Now...
I really wish that you go back to releasing albums frequently.
We only know you as Dream's mom these days.
- It was like a karaoke. - I know.
It was amazing to hear her sing.
Let's give her a round of applause!
No one else can be called as Online Tapgol IU.
- Tell me about it. - Thanks.
Everyone prepared a song or some dancing for us,
but Jae Hwan will teach us how to write acrostic poems.
Even we find acrostic poems difficult.
That's right.
I've been hosting a radio show called "Hope Radio"...
and for three and a half years,
we've had a segment that features acrostic poems.
That's why I know the secret to writing a good one.
I'd like to give you a few pointers.
What are they?
It's a way to make sense with the sentence.
- Make sense? - That's what I'll be showing you.
- Good then. - It can be anything.
- Yu Jae Seok. - Yu Jae Seok?
You start off with the last syllable.
So Seok can be Sakyamuni.
- You decide on that first. - Right.
All you have to do is make a sentence that makes sense.
- Yu. - Yu.
Yu Jae Seok.
- Jae. - Has returned.
- Seok? - As Sakyamuni.
That's how you do it.
- It makes sense in a way. - Yes, it's a good idea.
That last part has to make sense.
Acrostic poems with my name all end up the same.
- How? - It's like this.
Baek? Baek Z Young.
- Z. - Right now.
- Young. - You're still so beautiful.
Let me change it up then.
I did what Jae Hwan taught us.
- Really? - Nice.
- With my name? - Good.
- Baek. - Baek Z Young.
- Z. - Right now.
- Young. - I'll give you money for prison.
That's a good one.
I decided on the prison angle first.
- I thought of one too. - Nice.
- With Baek Z Young. - Baek.
Baek Z Young.
- Z. - Z Young.
- Young. - Not good.
What on earth was that?
- That was awful. - Gosh.
- I decided on Young first. - I thought it was clever.
- I have one too. - Baek.
- Baek. - Even if you eat it 100 times.
- Z. - If you're this happy every time.
- Young. - The intake is zero calories.
- Nice! - That was amazing.
That's what I'm talking about.
That was great.
- The intake is zero calories. - Zero calories.
- Good one. - Amazing.
Actually, EDM is what...
I wanted to explain...
from a musical standpoint.
- How can we enjoy EDM? - EDM?
People find it awkward in clubs...
because they don't know when to go wild.
It's best to know the song,
but you can't tell when the highlight will begin.
That's right. However, there's a pattern.
No matter what the song is, the EDM genre is all about the drums.
- The drums? - Right.
And then you'll hear the notes traveling up.
(1. Focus on the drums. 2. Focus on the elevating sound.)
Is this civil defense training?
Then, you'll hear a short sentence.
That's your signal to jump. Get it?
I'd like for us to hear an example.
Which EDM song is it?
David Guetta's...
- Right, David Guetta. - You'll know once you hear it.
This one is by the book.
- At first... - I hear lyrics.
Right, I hear lyrics too.
Do you hear the drums?
- Not really. - Right.
This is the time for you to talk to other people.
- "Hello." - It's the only window you have...
to talk in clubs.
- This is that moment. - There's no need to jump yet.
- Not yet. - You won't seem cool.
What if I already started to jump?
Then you belong in Tapgol Park.
- You're out. - Is that wrong?
- Just stay still. - Here it comes.
You can hear the song's beat elevating.
- You're right. - It's going up.
- It sure is. - You'll now hear something.
(What is it?)
- And then... - I see.
- Can you now jump? - Yes, you can.
- So that was our cue? - Yes.
- This is when you jump. - Stop! That looks weird.
You look possessed!
- Really? - You sure do.
Are you a shaman?
Like this.
- I'm sorry, but Jae Hwan... - So there's a pattern.
Maybe it's just this song.
- Not at all. - There's really a pattern?
- It's the same for all EDM songs. - Give us another one then.
- Would that be okay? - Of course.
We'll just turn on a random EDM song.
Go for it.
- This is the intro. - But I hear drums.
- It's upbeat. - The DJs...
- I want to party. - I want to jump.
Then the DJs...
- So what's next? - Are you getting physical therapy?
- Physical therapy? - Low-frequency muscle stimulation.
That's what I'm receiving.
You really are a terrible dancer.
How is this different from your grasshopper days?
- Low-frequency muscle stimulation. - Will the beat elevate?
(Focus on the drums and the beat elevating.)
- Here it goes. - It's elevating.
- He's right. - The beat is getting faster.
Then what did I say?
- I said you'd hear something. - A sentence.
- Here it goes. - All right.
(A saying?)
Here it goes.
(Something was said!)
(Now!)
(Jump!)
You're right.
(The effect of his quick-fire training session.)
You're absolutely right.
- See? - It's true.
My gosh, you're right.
- That's what I'm talking about. - How about another song?
- It works with all EDM songs. - This is great.
We're now hipsters who party at clubs.
I appreciate how you enjoyed that.
With Master Yoo, we can stop being wallflowers...
- at clubs. - At clubs!
Nice.
To celebrate this week's "Offline Tapgol Song Festival",
we prepared a special segment.
We have videos of you from back in the day.
This sounds like fun.
Seeing old videos of you...
- It sounds like fun. - It does.
It'll be fun.
(Blast from the Past: Go-Back TV)
(Digging up memories that have been rotting away)
(Awful moments from their past will be dug up.)
Oh, no!
(Clues and hints from one's old self)
"Thank you for flirting with me."
(Answer the quiz using the hints that are given.)
- Can you remember... - That's right.
It'll be fun for the actual person.
Let's see if you can remember what you said.
Let's start with Z Young.
So with these four men...
Is this "Love Love Studio"?
(It's a dating show that aired on MBC in 1999.)
Is this for real?
Look at the hosts of the show!
I can't believe it. That's me right there.
- Who's that? - This was in 1999.
- What? - It's the year I debuted.
So it was 20 years ago.
Is that you holding up the X?
(Z Young, weren't you popular in school?)
People...
(She was absolutely stunning.)
You look so young.
(Why did Z Young choose X?)
Why did Z Young choose to hold up X?
I was so focused on my face...
that I didn't hear what the question was.
- Me too. - What was it?
She was asked...
if she's popular for being beautiful.
Z Young answered that she wasn't.
Why did she answer that she wasn't though?
If I was witty back then,
I could've said I'm a catch instead.
- Right. - So, "No, I'm a catch instead."
- Yes. - She's not wrong.
I'm not popular but I'm still a catch.
- What do you think? - I also think...
that she would've given a witty answer.
That's what I also thought as well.
I know it's not a fresh opinion,
but I think she would've given a witty answer.
"Not whenever,"
"but when I dance and sing."
She could've said that.
"Not whenever..."
- Only on stage. - It was 1999.
- When did you debut again? - That year.
- I debuted that year. - I see.
Then I think she would've been more modest.
- A modest answer. - I agree.
Why was your hair sticking to your face though?
- It was the trend back then. - Really?
What kind of style was it?
Mi Youn had that style too.
Yours was just as bad.
- I mean... - The hair in the back...
was greased down as well.
Your hair looks like seaweed.
(The smell of the ocean wraps around her head.)
- So... - What's with the fur?
Did you use a plastic sheet?
It's as if you had a cold.
It's like I brushed my hair with a fine comb.
So let's see how you answered.
(What was Z Young's answer?)
(Why did Z Young say she wasn't popular?)
(I'm not sure if I should say this but...)
(What was Z Young's answer?)
(Those pretty never say that they are.)
What?
There was nothing modest about that!
My goodness.
Could I have been more brazen?
You were a rookie back then.
I know. I had just made my debut.
You certainly weren't like other rookies.
- Exactly. - You had game.
That was amazing.
I can't believe I said I was pretty with that face.
You don't look so bad.
- See what you just said? - Not so bad?
You can't say that I was pretty.
I must really be pretty then.
That's not it.
I just can't get over the hair.
It's clinging too much to your face.
It was quite an elegant show though.
Let's move on!
- So let's see another. - I wonder what it'll be.
("Trot Is in the Air" by Trot Voice)
You really know how to dig them up.
- What's this? - What's this?
What's this about?
- This is Trot Voice. - Is that Paeng Hyun Sook?
(What are the following lyrics?)
- Isn't this... - What was that?
Wasn't that Trot Voice?
- That's right. - It was before your solo album.
My solo album came out in 1999.
Lee Sang Won of Sobangcha...
was the lead vocalist.
It was a coed group of about 8 to 9 members.
- I see. - That was Trot Voice.
I've never heard of them before.
- Me neither. - What was this group?
Actually, Sang Won wanted to...
come up with a new genre known as dance trot.
He was way ahead of his time.
I was introduced to him...
and that's why I joined the team as a part-timer.
Let's hear the song again.
Can we please stop watching it?
(The song will be repeated and Z Young will be in endless torment.)
(It's a song about growing to love trot...)
(because of the woman you're in love with.)
(I love trot)
(They get to hear the first part again.)
"Now, I'm in love with someone."
What's with the odd dance moves?
(What's with the choreography?)
"From her lips."
"From her lips and then mine as well."
The lyrics that come next?
Do you remember it?
- What is it? - "And then mine as well."
Let me tell you how you should approach this.
Because of this,
everything changed.
That's why she and I...
keep doing this.
(Their brains are at full power.)
- What is it? - I'm clueless.
(Her 1st hint doesn't help them much.)
"And then mine as well."
What's the title of this song?
"Trot Is in the Air".
Yes, "Trot Is in the Air".
Is it "trot" then?
You're singing trot.
- Z Young, do you remember it? - From my lips
(Bouncing)
(Everybody, trot, trot, oh)
That's it.
What...
(Our traditional music makes our shoulders bounce.)
Right?
I didn't know such a song existed.
(From her lips and then mine as well)
How's my memory?
(Everybody, trot, trot, oh)
You were right.
- What does this song mean? - No way.
I've never heard of this before.
- Trot Voice. - Trot Voice.
Make sure to pronounce the V correctly.
- Right. - Trot Voice.
Not "Boice,"
but "Voice."
- Right. - Voice.
It was amazing.
Nice. It's fun to dig up the past.
I can't believe you found that video.
Next up is Byul.
This is interesting.
- Here's Byul. - You look the same.
(2012, During a talk show on SBS)
That's what I think.
- I sounded so pretentious. - It's what I want.
(She was sending a video letter to Haha before their wedding.)
Gosh, this is crazy.
(You reached out your hand when I was still scared.)
You painted such a beautiful picture for me.
Just how long is this letter?
It was very long.
(Thank you for melting my frosty heart.)
Her frosty heart.
So what were her last words?
I definitely remember this.
- I still remember it. - I think I know.
I saw this recently.
So what she said at the end...
- What did she say? - Can I answer?
"Haha, please be my own star now."
(Haha, please be my own star now.)
- Really? - Of course not.
I was only trying to guess the answer.
You just can't refrain from the worst comments.
Let me give you a hint.
"Thank you for blah, blah."
- Fill in the blanks? - She thanked him.
Yes, I thanked him.
Will the answer...
make us cringe?
- No. - Is it corny?
"Thank you, baby daddy."
What?
(Hyun Moo's guess: "Thank you, baby daddy.")
- I... - She didn't have a child back then.
- It was before marriage. - They announced the wedding.
"Ha Dong Hoon, thank you."
I can't believe it.
I thanked him for what he did for me.
"Thank you for doing something."
"Thank you for protecting me."
Byul kept mentioning something.
"Thank you for calling me."
You're getting warm.
"Thank you for flirting with me."
That's so close.
- You're almost there. - He kept asking you out.
- That's not it. - You're close though.
- He was relentless? - He flirted.
- He made his moves on you. - Think of two Ms.
Two Ms?
- Two Ms? - A move?
- He hit on you. - I got it.
"Thank you for making a move on me."
(Yoon Hee's answer: "Thank you for making a move on me.")
(That is correct!)
Yoon Hee, good job.
Back in the day, this was worthy of a dance.
(Thank you for making a move on me.)
I'm glad we're still a happy family.
This is fun though.
It's nice to see these clips from the past.
Next up is Eun Jin.
So no more videos of me?
- It's from "Six Heroines". - Right.
(2005, "Six Heroines")
It's "Six Heroines".
(She and another member of Baby V.O.X...)
(liked the same man?)
(How did Eun Jin answer?)
What did Eun Jin say?
- Her eyes went up. - I don't remember...
what I said back then.
- Did it happen? - Yes.
Do you remember who that guy was?
Yes.
(She still remembers the guy they liked.)
That's just how it was.
Anyway, during the time I filmed "Six Heroines",
I was rather straightforward.
- You would just talk about it. - I'd talk about anything.
- You were honest. - Right.
- You wouldn't hide it. - Right.
"Of course, I won."
- Shall we take a look? - "She was no match for me."
- "I won." - Shall we take a look?
I didn't know about this, but it was true.
(Eun Jin admits that there was a love triangle back then.)
I didn't know about this. I found out about it later.
So who was it?
- Which one of you? - Well...
It was Kan Mi Youn.
(Mi Youn was in the love triangle with Eun Jin.)
- We're talking about her again. - We talk about her a lot today.
Here's the thing.
The guy was an idol singer.
Like I said then,
I found out about it later.
He was going out with me.
- That man? - Right.
But I found out later that Mi Youn had a crush on him...
even before I went out with him.
- It's interesting. - It's fun to watch old clips.
- It's fun. - Right.
I want to be in a group too.
(Out of nowhere, Z Young says she wants to be in a group.)
It's not too late.
- You were in a group. - That's right.
- Trot Voice. - My goodness.
Her lips and my lips
Let's all sing trot songs together
There's trot fever these days.
My goodness. You are right.
I was the trendsetter.
- That's right. - You started this fever.
Of course.
This must be fun.
Our production crew is so kind.
They prepared some of our old videos as well.
I don't think they would remember us.
Jae Seok has been in the industry for quite a while.
- There must be a lot of it. - This must be good.
Shall we take a look? I'll take a look at it too.
Let's watch Jae Seok's video.
(From "Let's Go! Dream Team" during 1999)
I can't remember this one.
You were there on the show?
- I was on this show. - It was shot in 1999.
That's when I just started to get famous.
I think I saw this video.
(Jae Seok is preparing for his bungee jump.)
- Use appropriate words. - Don't I look horrible?
(How did he express his feelings with appropriate words?)
- I have no idea. - Appropriate words.
You hate bungee jumping.
- I hate it so much. - That's really scary.
Let me briefly tell you what was going on there.
I wasn't popular enough to join "Let's Go! Dream Team".
It was a huge show for me back then.
- It was the most popular show. - Right. It was popular then.
Its viewer's ratings hit more than 30 percent then.
Honestly, as I do now, I have a fear of heights.
So I can't really jump.
But I did jump at that moment.
I jumped because I wanted to be on that show.
- Right. - That is all I jumped for.
- You were a newbie. - My goodness.
Did you say, "I'll jump first"?
I wanted to show that I was willing to do anything.
- I got it. - I don't remember this.
- "I want to be famous." - It's something like that.
(Jae Hwan's answer: "I want to be famous.")
"I would do anything for the show."
It's something like that.
It starts with "I am".
- "I am..." - "I am".
Then the sentence ends with "New Zealand."
"It's my first time to be in New Zealand."
- No, it can't be that. - New Zealand.
- So the sentence goes... - Gosh! I remember it now.
"I am here in New Zealand to do bungee jumping."
- Shall we take a look? - Did he say that?
(Here is Jae Seok's answer.)
(I am here because I want to do bungee jumping.)
That's the answer.
(Jae Seok's answer: "I am here to do bungee jumping.")
I still remember that...
I was standing on a tiny foothold.
I still can't forget the sound of the wind.
(Jae Seok still remembers the sound of the wind then.)
- It was so windy up there. - It must have been scary.
(Wind sounds)
I'm really scared of heights.
The cameras got much better these days.
You can either use the Jimmy Jib or a small camera...
- to shoot from different angles. - We use drone cameras now.
- We always use drone cameras. - I was so scared then.
What made me even more scared was...
the rope in front of me.
The cameraman was hanging on the rope with his camera.
My goodness.
He was shooting me from there.
- My goodness. - Really?
He carried the camera as he was on hanging on the rope.
I did skydiving on a TV show before.
The cameraman would get ready in front of me.
Then he jumped backward first.
(The cameraman jumped backward before Byul jumped.)
- Goodness. - Then I jumped right after him.
So the cameraman who jumped before me held the camera like this.
- I know. - That's what they did.
- I was very shocked then. - We use drones these days.
I know. We can shoot everything with a drone camera.
The cameramen worked so hard back then.
We couldn't have made it here without them.
It's rather sad.
Here is the next question. It's also about Jae Seok.
- It's mine? - In 2001.
(Jae Seok's visiting an Australian zoo in 2001.)
- You did so many things. - I remember this one.
We shot the Australia Special for "Let's Go! Dream Team".
I remember this one.
The kangaroo might have done something.
It doesn't have to do with the kangaroos.
You have to guess what happens next.
It's not what I said. You have to guess what happens next.
- Did he fall? - Did you fall?
- Jae Seok fell down. - You tripped over...
- the railing. - That's right.
- Really? - Yes.
It won't bite me, will it?
(Here is the answer.)
The railing was higher than I thought.
(Jae Seok fell flat on his face.)
(He was so glad to see the Australian soil.)
He fell on his face.
It could've been bad.
- You didn't do that on purpose? - No, I didn't.
The railing was higher than I thought.
My shoes were too big.
- Right. They were too big. - My shoes were too big.
You could have just climbed over. Why did you jump like that?
- He's a comedian. - You were imitating a kangaroo.
I had to make it fun because I'm a comedian.
I'm sure he wanted to make it fun.
I thought this after I fell.
"I did it."
- You made a funny scene. - You did a good job.
- "I did it." - We would be happy about this.
Gosh, all right.
Let's move on to the next one. This one is about Hyun Moo.
What's this one about?
- What is it? - Gosh, he looks so young there.
I think I remember this!
(Hyun Moo's covering Sang Woo and Tae Young's love scandal.)
Hyun Moo looks so young there.
- He's such a baby there. - He looks so young.
(Tae Young is a regular at this pharmacy.)
What did Hyun Moo do at the pharmacy that Tae Young frequented?
Let me give you a hint. He did something irrational.
I think...
I was greedy then.
"Show me the pills that Tae Young takes."
But Byul's answer quite witty.
- I wasn't witty? - No, you weren't witty.
He was ambitious.
"Tell her that Hyun Moo was here."
- He wasn't a big star then. - "Do you want my autograph?"
(Hyun Moo's answer: "Do you want my autograph?")
Gosh, I hate it!
(Sae Ho hates Hyun Moo.)
I hate myself too.
- Did he say that for real? - No way. I couldn't have said it.
(Here is the answer.)
(In celebration of their wedding,)
(Hyun Moo voluntarily leaves his autograph there.)
That's the worst.
- Why didn't they cut this out? - I can't believe him.
- People don't change. - He was going to be a star.
- People don't change. - I know.
My goodness. How did I remember this?
- He never changes. - You never change, do you?
But this one is quite meaningful.
- People don't change. - Yours was meaningful too.
Why did you write your name there?
- That's Hyun Moo. - He wrote "KBS" next to his name.
He never changes.
- He does so many obnoxious things. - I hate myself there.
My goodness.
One of the members wrote, "Hyun Moo is the worst."
"Hyun Moo is the worst."
But there is one thing that I think highly of him.
- He's unchanging. - He never changes.
- I would die if I change. - Right.
- I would die if I change. - He never changes.
That's all for "Offline Tapgol Song Festival". How did you enjoy it?
I always feel this when I am on Happy Together.
I feel that I just laugh here without doing much.
- You did a good job today. - I always have a good time here.
I had so much fun today.
Many people think that I'm just Haha's wife.
But I'm done with giving birth.
I'm really done with that. I'll be working as a singer now.
I told you. I'll have my 2nd kid if you have your 4th kid.
(Z Young will have her 2nd kid if Byul has her 4th kid.)
I'll work on my next album.
- All right. - Great.
It has been 11 years since I got to be on Happy Together.
Don't call me again after another 11 years.
Exactly.
I'll be more than happy to be on this show again much sooner.
These singers all have been...
top singers in the past. It's my honor to be here with them.
They are top singers.
I hope they became the only singers in their own field.
- I have to share some sad news. - Right.
Yoon Hee has been with us for about a year.
- It's her last episode with us. - Yes.
- How come? - Why?
She is going to work on her weekend drama series.
I made my comeback through this show...
after I gave birth to my kid.
Personally, it was my honor to work with...
these fantastic hosts.
I had so much fun with them.
I'll go back to being an actress as I was.
I will work hard on...
"Beautiful Love, Wonderful Life".
(A warm smile that melted the cold winter)
(She overcame the fear by working hard.)
(Yoon Hee has been the host who brightened the show.)
(Yoon Hee, we were all happy to be with you.)
Please give her the flowers.
The time has come
- Here you go. - Gosh, thank you.
I love flowers.
Let's give Yoon Hee another big round of applause.
We'd like to thank Yoon Hee for working so hard for us.
Yoon Hee, it was a pleasure to have you on the show.
Thank you so much.
- Good work. - Thank you.
(Good work, Yoon Hee. We will miss you.)